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About myself: Male, Mid-thirties, Asian, from New York City, and suffering from fordyce spots on the lips (large clusters and individual spots on upper and lower lips)

A few years ago, I tried hyfrecation to treat my lips at two dermatology practices in NYC (spent close to $1,000 on treatments at the two practices). The results weren't as impressive as I'd hoped. There was a slight improvement, but nothing dramatic. In my opinion, hyfrecation is good at targeting individual large fordyce spots, but not at large clusters of small spots that create a shape. A good analogy would be a dart (hyfrecator) hitting a bulleye (cluster of fordyce spots). Fairly ineffective! For more information about hyfrecation, please refer to the wiki link listed below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyfrecator

Tired of being self-conscious about my lips, I tried CO2 laser treatment yesterday at Union Square Laser Dermatology. The procedure itself wasn't painful at all as local anesthetic was injected around my lips and lower face after my lips were numbed with a numbing cream.

The post procedure regiment as prescribed by the laser dermatologist is that I stay home for 4+ days, take valtrex (a herpes medication as a precaution), apply a distilled water/distilled vinegar solution to my lips three times a day to help with the crusting around the tissue that was affected by the laser. Additionally, I was to wear aquaphor lip balm on my lips all the time to keep it moist.

Right after the procedure, your lower face will be numb for around a hour. After a hour or so has passed, you will start feeling soreness on your lips. The next day, follow the prescribed aforementioned regiment.

Note that this procedure at Union Square Laser Dermatology is very expensive in my opinion ($300 to test the laser on a few fordyce spots to gauge my skin's reaction + $1,000 for the actual procedure a few months later = $1,300 total). Also, taking a week off work also hit me hard financially. I've attached a picture of my lips the day after the laser treatment. There's a lot of crusting and my lips are super soggy from all the lip balm. Furthermore, I will post pictures of the results in the future when I can.
Hi, I would really appreciate on keeping us updated with your experience. I have tried the hyfrecation too. Sadly, I agree with you and it was a big disappointment. Now, I am curious on trying the CO2 laser. I have a consultation with a dermatologist at the end of this month.

The affected area is on the middle part of my top lip. I would give anything to rid myself of these things. I am the only one in my family with this nightmare.
(10-19-2014 02:03 AM)jt_royale Wrote: [ -> ]About myself: Male, Mid-thirties, Asian, from New York City, and suffering from fordyce spots on the lips (large clusters and individual spots on upper and lower lips)

A few years ago, I tried hyfrecation to treat my lips at two dermatology practices in NYC. The results weren't as impressive as I'd hoped. There was a slight improvement, but nothing dramatic. In my opinion, hyfrecation is good at targeting individual large fordyce spots, but not at large clusters of small spots that create a shape. A good analogy would be a dart (hyfrecator) hitting a bulleye (cluster of fordyce spots). Fairly ineffective! For more information about hyfrecation, please refer to the wiki link listed below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyfrecator

Tired of being self-conscious about my lips, I tried CO2 laser treatment yesterday at Union Square Laser Dermatology. The procedure itself wasn't painful at all as local anesthetic was injected around my lips and lower face after my lips were numbed with a numbing cream.

The post procedure regiment as prescribed by the laser dermatologist is that I stay home for 4+ days, take valtrex (a herpes medication as a precaution), apply a distilled water/distilled vinegar solution to my lips three times a day to help with the crusting around the tissue that was affected by the laser. Additionally, I was to wear aquaphor lip balm on my lips all the time to keep it moist.

Right after the procedure, your lower face will be numb for around a hour and subsequently, you will start feeling soreness on your lips. The next day, follow the prescribed aforementioned regiment.

Note that this procedure at Union Square Laser Dermatology is very expensive IMHO. I've attached a picture of my lips the day after the laser treatment. There's a lot of crusting and my lips are super soggy from all the lip balm. Furthermore, I will pictures of the results in the future when I can.

Hi JT,

Thanks for sharing your experiences thus far. I'm very interested in your progress / thoughts and any pics you may have before and after CO2 Laser treatment. Good luck.
Hey theender,

Good luck with your consultation. The difficult part is finding a competent laser dermatologist. Luckily, the practice I used is renown for their laser work as it is their sole focus.

It's still too early to tell how my results are since I'm still healing. But so far, I like what I'm seeing in terms of the healing of of the destroyed tissue containing the fordyce spots. I was really scared about the procedure initially and hated the way my lips looked after the procedure. My lips were red, swollen, and there were large craters where tissue used to exist. The freakiest sight was seeing the fordyce spots within the craters as some of the sebaceous glands are really deep in the tissue! The laser dermatologist told me there were limits to how deep she could vaporized into the tissue without causing damage to muscles within the lip. It's also important that you take a multi-vitamin everyday and refrain from smoking after the CO2 procedure to aid the healing.

I've attached three pictures as a dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hrocm7kh18zy8...pYW7a?dl=0

The first picture is my lips prior to the procedure, the second picture is my lips four hours after the CO2 procedure (there's a lot of reddish crusting and lip balm here), and the third picture is six days after the procedure (the white portion of the lips are actually new skin tissue that is developing). I will post up more pictures next month when the healing has completed to give everyone a better idea of the length of healing time required and possible outcomes of the CO2 procedure.

Moreover, I wish to thank forum user "perene" for posting up pictures of his CO2 laser treatment (http://www.fordycespotsforum.com/showthr...tid=11996) which gave me the confidence to attempt it.
Hey Jnr,

I have attached pictures in my previous post (see dropbox link) and will update that folder with more pictures next month when the healing has completed.
Hi JT,

Hope all is well, just wondering if you had any updates on your procedure? Also, did you have much difficulty with eating or any other annoyances during post op? Finally, what day after the procedure did you feel that your lips were good enough to go into the public eye?

Thanks,
Jnr
Hey, Im kind of dissapointed that JT hasn't come back to post results. I can only assume 1 of 2 things. The treatment did not work and the spots returned (which unfortunately I think is most likely). Or 2) The treatment worked and JT hasnt found the time to come back. Either Way If we could find out the outcome it would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

Iwish
Hey, JT would love to know either way how your procedure went. How long did it take to heal etc? Hope[/i] all good mate.
do not under any cirumstances get co2 laser treatment, i had it about 10 years ago and became impotent, viagra and all the pills dont work and top urologists have no idea how to help me. believe me in my teens and early twenties i was obsessed with these spots going as far as traveling across the world to try and get them taken off with electric needles to finally getting a dermatologist to zap them with a co2 laser. the laser treatment did not work, most of them came back within a few months and like i said i havent been able to keep a proper boner ever since the day of the laser treatment, trust me as you get older you will accept the spots and not even care about them and thats coming from a person who quite literally spent every waking moment worrying about them and what girls would think of them. heres my advice if your like i was and are worrying about what people will say if they find out about them, just go travel a bit and hook up with some girls who have no idea of who you are or where your from and hook up with them (it can be to a different country/city or a few towns over if your to young to travel alone) if they notice them tell them straight “oh yeah there just natural spots that some guys get”
below is a copy of an e mail i just sent to a doctor looking for help, dont end up like me trust me i grew out of caring about the spots but the damage i did trying to get rid of them looks like its permenant meaning not just not hooking up, but also not getting married not having kids and forever being alone, do not put yourself in that posistion. chill out find something else to focus on like martial arts it builds confidence and nobody will have the nerve to make fun of you. good luck

i am wondering if you do mri’s of the penis, i have had erectile dysfunction for years ever since a dermatologist told me he could remove some spots from my penis with a co2 laser. ever since then i have had difficulty maintaining an erection, the glans does not fill up as much as it used too i will sometimes get a curve in the penis while in the process of getting an erection and while flacid sometimes my penis takes on an hour glass shape.
i have had 3 ultrasounds with 3 different urologists and gotten 3 different explanations, so i would like to get an mri to get a clearer idea of what may be the problem and if it can be fixed.
thank you
bump, I wounder what happend to this guy? Did he died? Smile
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